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The US is at least 40 years removed from any kind of real electronics manufacturing at scale.
This kind of thing takes generational knowledge to get right and we outsourced that knowledge a long time ago.
We are now several generations from being able to manufacture electronics on the level.
Either trump has no idea how anything works or he’s actively trying to destroy the American economy.
He will just give out stimulus checks to make everyone think the economy is good. Somehow that’s not socialism though it’s American!
yep, warm up those money printers. And too bad for anyone who has saved a nestegg for retirement-- thats all getting watered down now. ah well.
He likes Russia so much that he wants the US to become like it. He’s following the post-USSR playbook. He’s trying to destroy the economy so he and his billionaire buddies can buy up the scraps for pennies on the dollar. Which will turn him into an oligarch and will keep him in power after his term is up. And he isn’t going to pay for any of it. He will steal money from the people like he did in his first term with his golf course and his cult following will keep giving him money and buy his crypto coins. That’s why he wants to get rid of cryptocurrency regulation.
The world will be split between countries that trade freely with China and countries that don’t.
This will be the test and control for whether trading with China is good or bad.
They’ll blame democrats for the price increases. Bet me.
Same as last time
Same as every time, this shit is so damn tiring
It sucks the prices will go up, and I’m not saying I want this but I feel like they would go up higher than this based on what he said.
I’m involved in the manufacturing sector. At recent trade shows, we’ve been hearing that a lot of companies were holding off on making decisions about purchasing goods and machinery until after the election, though no one was saying much specifically about what each candidate would mean for their decisions. This article seems to say the outlook isn’t super rosy and his initiatives don’t make a ton of sense.
I’m in manufacturing within China. While I’m not American and don’t work with American companies. Lots of our supply chain has said there is high levels of uncertainty in projects. Projects have been on hold for months.
- Not true at all. Vile lies spread by the Democrats.
- Okay, maybe it is true, but it’s actually a good thing.
- Okay, maybe the results are catastrophic, but it’s actually the Democrats’ fault. The solution is higher tariffs.
Can someone please explain to me why he STILL doesn’t have any understanding of how tarrifs work?
I believe that he does, and he knows shit will cost more, but he ALSO knows that his followers have no clue whatsoever. So prices will increase, and he’ll blame it on one of their many “others”. Keeping them scared and mad is the key to their control over them
A candidate that expressed nuanced understanding of economic principles would have been less likely to win the election.
A candidate that instead promises answers that intuitively sound right. If imports are expensive, then obviously the big business owners will build domestic and give us more money. If you get rid of immigrants, then the business owners will have to pay more for citizen workers. Simple answers that are easier for people to believe in.
Attempts to explain nuance? That ranges from nerds overcomplicating things and/or those darned liberal elites trying to truck them.
This cuts both ways. In 2020 Biden won not due to a more sophisticated understanding of things, but simply because things were bad, and the other guy therefore was the obvious choice. So to overcome an incumbent, you just have to have people believe stuff is bad, and provide some believable explanation that you could fix it.
TIL, lots of Trumps voters don’t even know how tariffs work and thought the foreign companies are the one who paid those instead of the domestic buyers themselves.
Even if, did they think prices would just stay the same? Tariffs only work if production is moved back home, which for many industries won’t happen, which means costs will be passed on to consumers.
Used electronics go brrrrrr
Remember that you need a pretty new setup to get to run a windows OS that still receives updates. If we talk about computers that is.
Use linux.
I am almost there. I had so much problem with Linux on my server that i run back in the days that I said I never want to touch Linux again after last time i installed it. It broke a couple of years later and I knew I could not run windows but had read about Linux mint. Installed with no expectations and that was easier than windows. No problems, easy to config and I got everything to just work as I wish.
The step from going to Linux on my main computer is not far. I guess I will dual boot for a while since I play a lot of games and once I get accustomed to it I guess it will be my main. Fuck windows.
Used electronics you already own goes brrr Used electronics for sale will go up in price, because the seller needs money to buy new electronics or maybe food
You guys buy new? In Putin Russia we make our own laptops from dishwashers!
Imported from Ukraine!More seriously, I use some i5-2700 desktop computer and just happy.
I hope Trump turns out to be the best president in history. Prove me wrong, conservatives. I want to hear how it’s going by the fourth year.
Everyone who says he’s not the best President ever will be shot.
I mean, what do you think? He announced that. Apparently this is what the US-Citizens want.
It’s that damn reality that needs to be punished. Stupid facts and laws of economics making Trump look worse than he is.
Because isolationism has worked out so splendidly for us in the past. Fuck this country.
I’m upgrading to 9800x3d now so I should be set until the end of Trump’s presidency.
I’m on a 5800x3d, pretty set right now, but that’s a good point…
Rich get richer, poor people suffer. Americans are so f dumb i cant take it
Everyone needs a lesson in how tarrifs work. Tarrifs are a tax on thing that us companies buy. They are intended to make foreign products more expensive to protect domestic producers. So, the abeyance company pays the tariff. They them passed that tariff on to their customer, either another company or an American consumer. Then, the country that the tariff had been applied to applies offsetting tarrifs on American good.
When the product that the tariff is applied to can’t be produced in the US think advanced microchips or Canadian softwood lumber, Americans pay more but still have to buy the foreign product. With the softwood lumber tarrifs the cost of building a home with candidness softwood lumber went up by tens of thousands of dollars and Canadian companies laughed all the way to the bank.
So, the price to American companies and consumers goes up and the cost of American goods overseas goes up. Americans pay the tarrifs and American companies sell less goods overseas.
America loses.
So in your example, I guess the tariffs don’t apply to Canada? Because the proceeds of tariffs go to the government of the country charging them.
I’m not sure what you’re asking. If you’re referring to softwood lumber the profits of Canadian lumber companies were at record levels because the US needs Canadian softwood lumber with or without tarrifs. The tarrifs didn’t affect sales at all so with the increased demand despite the tarrifs Canadian companies didn’t suffer at all. US consumers spent more and the money went to the US government which presumably gave some of the money to uncompetitive US softwood lumber companies to subsides their unprofitable operations. It’s a tax on US consumers.
Canadian softwood lumber companies pay a stumpage fee to shiatsu/sustainably harvest softwood on public land. US softwood lumber companies pay much higher prices to harvest lumber mostly on private land is all about extracting the highest profit for the most wealthy people. Canada has a better system and the US is salty about it. The US had lost at the WTO energy time but refused to accept the result so it ignored its treaty obligations and just forges ahead with the illegal tarrifs which hurt US consumers.
What I love… what I really love… is that this happened during the administration of Trump’s favorite president (other than himself), Andrew Jackson:
