Fuck you, Trump. Make yourself an enemy to all. We will not back down.
i upvoted you and the french guy that got banned. you’re both right. you bring the energy we need but he does make valid points. the left has been bullied far too much without fighting back over the last 10 years. some criticism is due.
A lot of criticism is due. But I, myself, am not the establishment Democrats. Taking it out on me in a Lemmy echo chamber isnt doing much to help the cause. In fact, it makes me so pissed that everyone is doubling down on generalizations. It just goes to show humans are humans, it doesnt matter what side you are on, hate is always strong.
Most people dont want to live in an opressive society. There is only right and wrong now, not right vs left.
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Oh keep downvoting. and keep talking big game. and keep not even getting up from your desk chair in your computer room/bedroom to do anything other than bathroom/eat.
Americans love to talk shit about other nations being pussies. Now your president is threatening to send your fellow citizens who are democrats to el Salvador prisons to die. in reality. will you post another status? downvote my post? or actually act?
Only fascists themselves try this hard to waste our time.
Get fucked, buddy. You’re an asshole. Your opinions are that of an asshole. You’re out here talking to yourself; it’s pathetic. I won’t answer any response you have to this, I’ll just block you.
Espouse your hate all you want; you’ll get the same reaction 100% of the time.
Edit: the dissent to this post you see below is purely fascists trying to waste your time.
What sort of response is this? You yell something and then quickly put you fingers in your ears?
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Bro what? I am a French anarcho communist who votes left and never hasnt. Been arrested three times for property damage during Paris protests tho!
You all tho, literally just talk shit. And never do anything. But elect Trump twice.
that explains your annoying outdated comments. referring to yourself as a extreme opposite of alt-right isnt exactly a flex.
so you are a nazi right winger? okay.
being anti-“that“ is also anti-fascist. i am absolutely anti-fascist. i believe in 1781 your guys got it right.
And we’ll keep watching the USA fall. While you do nothing but post comments and downvotes. We’ll be here taking insults from him and defending Ukraine and nato treaties. While you all post, and downvotes. And order ubereats. And work. And voice super angry opinions in comment sections. Keep it up guys!
Don’t cut yourself on all that edge, kid.
huh? its edgy to suggest you fight in the streets to prevent american citizens being sent to el salvador prisons to die? uh…. in my country thats way past the point of a general strike and riot
Look, Idk what I did to you, but I got more going on than just Lemmy. Sorry you dont see Sanctus out there IRL, you wont. I dont look like this.
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Lmao. This 🤡
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This is exactly why the 2nd amendment exists.
Those of you who have served in the military and swore an oath to protect us from domestic enemies, please seriously consider honoring your oath before the rest of us have to do it for you.
when ice is coming to get me, no amount of weaponry will save me, all I’ll do is take some nazis with me.
I want to be very clear here. If they take you, at A MINIMUM, they will beat you, torture you, SA you, and deny you civil rights and human rights. At worst, you die. You want all these slack jawed jackasses that won’t raise holy hell about the government already doing this to immigrants, you’re dead anyway. ‘‘ICE kills US citizen’’ is a much stronger headline than ‘‘Trump says he will do this to citizens’’ additionally when the ICE agents have to deal with the fact that ‘‘just following orders’’ includes a high chance of death, they might question the orders.
This is important to remember
Take down the Nazis with you because you have no choice or hope. You can’t reason with them
They will deface you and disappear you. They will say you work for MS-13, that you’re a child pedophile, they will craft and manufacture evidence and they will disappear you to the concentration camps. They’ve already done this, they’re just going to continue
As others have said, if they take you to a second location, you could either die or end up in a gulag in another country, which is probably as good as being dead.
May as well fight to the death. Make them pay for it. If you don’t you could end up wishing you had another opportunity to.
Exactly this. The fear of torture to death would make me fight back when they bust in. This reminds me to start carrying and leaving easy access to the shotgun at home
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Melt the ICE
Everyone should strive for 2 so we make progress
Absolutely true. They will also make shit up and deface your name anyways.
Even if you were found innocent and released, the entire world would believe the US government and the US government would call you MS-13 or pedophile
They wouldn’t correct that mistake. And you would be hard to even find a job, plus you would probably have cultists coming to kill you
That is if they’d still don’t just send you to the concentration camps and have you murdered like they have done so far
Group up with others of the same opinion and go hang at some brown people’s houses. Don’t wait. Force the issue.
We need a black panther revival asap
You need the people to come together. However that happens for you. Go eat with some folks you don’t know from minority communities. The internet tells me Americans eat out a lot. Go to ethnic restaurants. Meet their families. Offer to help them buy guns to defend themselves. Defend them yourself openly and without shame. Put your own comfort in jeopardy for someone you don’t know.
Wow, nothing like a shove forward as you step back right? I got news for you buddy, this isn’t the kind of thing just a few people can fix. The country actually elected him. We need to build a movement to fight this, to prevent the country from just electing the next one.
I bet when “ice” agents start meeting resistance in the form of 9mm and .45 it will make some changes.
I would never ask someone else to risk their lives for me. I think we all need to figure out where our red line is - for me it would be a successful attempt to keep serving in a third term, or actually successfully deporting/imprisoning US citizens without due process. Merely trying or talking about it isn’t enough because if the constitutional process stops him, that means it’s still working.
Maybe, just maybe, we should stop the known arsonist - who has declared they are going to burn all our houses down and is now gleefully walking to our neighborhood with a can of gasoline and a blow torch - before they get to the first house
Seems obvious when you think about it.
non American here. the red line was January 6th. Don’t wait to see if more boxes are checked, every autocracy in history relied on people planning to resist when things ‘really’ got worse. By then it’s always too late. They’re planning accordingly.
My Great Grandmother shot and killed an officer that was taking her family away to a concentration camp. Is that where we’re heading?
It’s a pretty good likelihood that stuff like that is in our future.
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We’re there. Be ready to fight when they come.
Headed? No. We’re there. If men in masks are telling you they’re police and trying to stuff you in a van, that’s it. You get cuffed. You’re dead. Buy a gun while you can. Make your life cost a life preferably more. Don’t let them put you in a camp or ghetto. Not a bad idea to go to a large gun shop in a state with next to no gun laws, find a person window shopping guns, strike up a conversation, and see if you can arrainge a third party sell. Then they don’t know to be weary of you.
They won’t stop unless someone makes them stop. That’s how movements like this work, every single time. They never wind down on their own. They have to constantly keep increasing the cruelty and extremism, or else their base will see weakness and abandon them. However bad you think it is now, it’s only going to get worse, unless someone puts an end to it. Historically, there are only a few ways a fascist movement has ever been stopped, and none of them are pretty.
Generally, things chug along getting worse and worse, until suddenly we reach a tipping point. Then something happens, often small and innocuous, and it tips. Then there’s no stopping it.
The Berlin Wall came down when a single guard decided on his own that he wasn’t going to stop the growing crowd that appeared after an East German government official accidentally declared at a press conference that they would finally allow emigration, following increasingly large protests. When the world woke up that morning, NOBODY knew this would happen that day. Not a single intelligence agency anywhere on the planet predicted it. It totally surprised the entire world.
Its likely that protests and outrage in America will grow, even among disgruntled MAGAs, and one day, its just going explode, probably over something fairly small. The fuse has already been lit.
This is the outcome I hope for. The other possibilities are a lot more messy.
when you put it like that
I guess its a good thing the police havent been militarizing, and filling their roster full of violent trigger happy assholes who radicalized themselves into thinking they’re the thin blue line between civilization and savagery,
There should never and will never be a point at which the police and military actually have control over the American population. Our population is one of the most violent on earth. We birthed those psychotic police officers. We made them. There’s no reason for them to scare us more than anyone else does.
They only pretend to have control. Anyone with half an iota of brainpower and understanding of numbers and revolt knows there’s only one thing to fear in this country and it’s the general population.
Yea, I have always thought about the future scenario. When they get tired of picking on the immigrant, they’ll turn to citizens. Really crazy and scary thought to even have to consider.
The cleanest way this can possibly end now is with the cult leader being removed…one way or another. Assuming the cult collapses afterward and doesn’t just attach itself to some other scumfuck that immediately steps up to fill the void.
The optimistic side of me believes this can happen. MAGA has tied themselves and their movement very tightly to Trump. Not to conservatism in general, not to any kind of policy in specific, but to the unique personality of Trump. They tried with DeSantis, and he flamed out hard. They’re trying with Vance, but he’s such an awkward goof that it’ll never work.
I don’t think the MAGA virus can survive in another host, and I think that’s why they are trying to rush into full on Fascism while Trump is still around. Once he’s gone, the Republican party is going to eat itself in the power vacuum.
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If there is no due process & the sentence is death, then Americans must resist arrest at all costs.
Americans are pussies and don’t understand what that means. they think screaming “please don’t” is enough.
so many are going to be sent to their deaths because they were civil about it for far too long.
Buy a gun and if they come for you kill as many as possible
This is where our country is heading
This is the correct approch. I can’t stress this enough, when it costs ICE their lives, and the headlines are “12 citizen killed by ICE” then people will stop sitting on their hands like this is nothing. Don’t let them put you in a ghetto, don’t let them put you in a labor camp or a death camp, CALL THEIR HAND EVERY TIME, If you let them take you, you’re dead anyway.
I would go absolutely feral. Ripping their throats out with my teeth and snapping any small bone I can grab.
This goes for anyone being kidnapped in my general vicinity as well. If I see that shit, it turns out that that is a good day to die. I will do it with glee.
Watch me laugh with their blood running down my face.
This is the way, this is real shit. I too would go absolutely animal for my loved ones and myself, go berserk.
Do it. Force the issue. Hang in the immigrant communities. Meet the people. Teach them what you would do, help them arm themselves and prepare. Then fight with everything you have. They’re not coming for you specifically just yet, but it’s only a matter of time.
Yup.
I am anti-gun and always have been and still believe a nation with more guns is going to have more death and generally be less safe.
But it is absolutely time to arm yourself.
ie, your fucked, but at least you can murder people on your way out
Right wing ideologies are based on fear, they’re all cowards deep down.
If enough of them die kicking in doors they’ll stop.
They have proven that if you comply at best, you will be denied rights, beaten, in a labor or death camp, and likely dead.
Cops dragged my buddy out of his car and shot him for having his legally owned pistol. How in the fuck are we supposed to resist ICE with guns?
Your friend was obeying the law, and trying to obey the law. When you aren’t trying to comply and you are fighting for you life, it’s a very different set of actions. No one’s waiting to get dragged out.
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i agree with you but if you’re willing to die at that point, why wouldn’t you just take action now to stop that scenario from happening? if we wait till the wolf is at our door, we’ve given the wolf the advantage of initiative. you don’t win wars by waiting for the enemy to strike first.
The CIA has a wonderful piece of training that’s publicly available online called ‘‘simple sabotage’’ I’d highly recommend reading it. Also Revolutionary Suicide by Huey P. Newton. Totally unrelated, a lot of campers really like to use a home made fire starter that’s waterproof, there’s a lot of good recipes usually petrol products and shipping materials, very simple. also I’m in a Drone building club at school, it’s not related to this, but it’s a lot of fun.
Or by saying “when it happens to me or my family”. How fucking self centered. That’s what got you in this fucking mess.
yep. american individualism is a denial of the very basics of humanity: we are social creatures. we got to the top of the food chain through cooperation, not by being the most alpha of lone wolves.
This is unbelievable, I could be deported. Me and my Dad were born on a military base, but that will not matter or my Grandpa was a respected general. My name isn’t English, tattoos, but I’m white and don’t know Spanish. El Salvador will be a death sentence in more than one way.
Like I’m telling the few people I have and it’s being downplayed, “that won’t happen”, " or “stay off the news and go have fun, you’re stressing out”. Like no, I’m gearing up for whatever comes, plan A to Z. I will NOT be torn away what I built for my family or my kids future.
The best advice I can give: leave the Untied States if you can
Um how? Who wants American Refugees?
Some Americans already have dual citizenship and so have other options
im a dual citizen myself but cant get my passports because im trans 🙃 that and broke as hell but still. id get stopped at the border because a guy with a fullass beard with a ‘F’ on their passport is considered fraud.
the United States does not recognize dual citizenship.
so if you get branded a criminal or terrorist, they’re coming after you. and they will absolutely threaten your second country into extradition if they want you bad enough
I have been unable to convince my spouse despite 9 years of trying. Really sad because we had two good options but chose to stick it out because of family (I say to hell with them but don’t have a veto proof majority there).
lol I have no real skills to offer another country. I am dead.
I am dead.
Then arm yourself and do what you can.
If I bought a gun I would blow by brains within a month.
This makes Bukele complicit in the crimes of the Trump administration, right? Isn’t he worried about the repercussions when the rule of law is restored in the US?
He is illegally kidnapping and restraining US citizens.
Cut from the same cloth as Trump, Bolsanaro, Berlusconi, Orbán, Lukashenko…
When? You mean after the UN liberation forces finally secure Pennsylvania Ave?
He’s perfectly safe. All he did was take a deal for money from the official US government. Another administration can cancel the deal, but no one will seek retribution from him.
He better be, cuz if we ever get out of this we’re fucking coming for him.
Time to buy a gun. The left needs to arm themselves fuckin’ yesterday.
Don’t think that they won’t come for you. The law is powerless to protect you from having your rights trampled on under this administration. All it takes is for King Trump to declare you a gang member and they have carte blanche authority to disappear you off the street.
I suspected about two weeks ago that I would, at some point, be a likely candidate for being sent to CECOT on the basis of daring to be transgender, and this is only more supporting evidence that it’s gonna happen.
Unfortunately you’re absolutely correct to be worried about this. Part of Project 2025 is the criminalization of Transgendered people under the rubric that they are inherently “pornographic”.
if things get any shittier, this administration is going to have to stop people at the border in the opposite direction
We’ll be the new East Germany.
I wonder how long before states start considering secession again.
He is literally begging to be put down like a rabid animal
In Minecraft.
That new rabid animal mod, in Minecraft.
Donald Trump is literally, yes, using the correct expression: literally – a homegrown criminal.
Read up on Bukele, if you haven’t already. Yet another tyrannical blueprint for Trump.
