MILWAUKEE (CNN) - A woman in Milwaukee says her Kia has been stolen three times, even after she installed a free security upgrade meant to prevent this crime from happening.

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    “This software update makes it so that even if they try to plug that USB port in, it’s not going to disable the ignition immobilizer,” Emily Falecki said. “It’s going to keep that intact and it is going to sound the factory alarm.”

    Falecki said on Friday that part of this upgrade requires Kia owners to lock their cars with a key fob.

    If you don’t use the key fob to lock your vehicle, the upgrade is useless.

    So this is a software “fix” for a hardware problem. WTF Kia…

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    My dad drives a base model Kia - no automatic locks, so no keyfob. Kia’s “fix” was to send him “The Club” with instructions to use it to lock the driving wheel every time he parks.

    When he told me the story it was structured like a joke, with the punchline being “guess what their solution is?” before pulling The Club from behind his back and handing it to me. He couldn’t stop laughing.

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      This literally unlocked a core memory of my parents locking the steering wheel of the family Plymouth Voyager that no one would ever steal. Amazing. Didn’t realize “the club” was still around.

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    That “security upgrade” - wasn’t that featured by the Lockpicking Lawyer? IIRC he took only seconds to unlock it.

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    I got a KIA in 2009 with windows that roll up with a crank. It was super cheap, but it ran like a dream. When I broke up with my ex in 2014, I let her keep it and I switched to a Ford, because poor/cheap.

    Now surprised my Ford is still ticking. Where the KIA, my ex had it stolen and never found it.

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      It’s still running too. I also have a 2009 (Spectra) and I think it might outlast my 2016 Optima. Sucks because for a while there, they made really great reliable cars. Now who even knows. Not all their cars suck but mine has an unlimited warranty now because of a class action and how shitty the engine in this car is so that’s not very promising.

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    A lot of these Kia/Hyundai articles deceptively/vaguely refer to a “security upgrade” which sounds official and IMO will make most think, “oh, so like a software update or kill switch type thing installed in the structure of the car’s built in security systems”

    And in reality, they just sent a cheap version of “the club”, and only to some people. And of course there are videos online that show how the club actually makes it easier for a thief without the proper tools to use it as a tool to HELP steal your car.

    If there were any justice against abusive corporations, the class action suite would be major here.

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      No, there really was a “recall” where they notified drivers to bring cars to the dealership for some software patch to address the issue.

      My mom did it, and it broke her remote start function. So it did change something regarding starting, but apparently, it didn’t really fix the original problem.

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        I’m a Hyundai owner, can say that I didn’t receive anything, when into dealership for all regular service early January, and I’m in the affected class. Nothing happened, no conversation about security - there was one about the engine catching fire and a notice that were supposed to park our cars outside until it can be inspected.

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      Yeah and it’s even good for the environment because other people got to use it when she wasn’t. saving them from buying a whole new car that would have polluted the environment even more. Also those 3 people won’t be traveling much now that they are in jail.

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        Excellent observations! Indeed, if the engine never stopped, then we wouldn’t spend time warming up the engine with a cold catalytic converter. But jail is indeed great at removing cars from the road.

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    I was wondering how they stole it twice after it was changed to immobilise when locked with the key fob.

    TL;DR - The owner was an idiot that didn’t immobilise the car by locking it with the key fob.

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        The alternative is… The car auto locks itself? What if you leave your key inside?

        No. It’s not on the company to EVER lock the car because consequences can be deadly.

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        The owner never locked the car. You can’t blame the company for that.

        It’s perfectly valid for an unlocked car to not have it’s immobilizer switch on. The cars unlocked, it fair to assume the key holder wanted it to be accessible.

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          Apparently it’s somewhat common in poorer areas to leave your car unlocked, it keeps criminals from smashing your window in.

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      No immobiliser.

      So you can hotwire it like a vintage car.

      Most cars are much more difficult to start.

      Most countries made immobilisers mandatory in the 90s, the US doesn’t like regulations that corporations have to follow.

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        So you can hotwire it like a vintage car.

        Its almost like a replaceable sheer pin could be installed so when they break the steering lock, it brakes the steering post into two pieces that require special tools to replace and would waste more time than steeling and repairing it would be worth.

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    “ This software update makes it so that even if they try to plug that USB port in, it’s not going to disable the ignition immobilizer,” Emily Falecki said. “It’s going to keep that intact and it is going to sound the factory alarm.”

    **Falecki said on Friday that part of this upgrade requires Kia owners to lock their cars with a key fob.

    If you don’t use the key fob to lock your vehicle, the upgrade is useless.

    “At this point, I don’t want to invest in Kia or Hyundai at the moment, like, I definitely am looking for a new car,” Nguyen said.”

    So …she’s just refusing to use the fob? Like how many cars work?

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    Anyone who owns a Kia or Hyundai without a pushbutton start is at risk. They need to know this and get new cars.

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      New cars are huge expenses, not everyone is able to sell theirs for a discount and get a different one.

      The company should be responsible for fixing them properly.

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      It would be cheaper in most cases to just install a push-button start in your car than to buy a whole new car. You can easily find the kits online, and any place that can install a car alarm can install them if you don’t want to do it yourself.