“shoot when scared” has been a terrible police policy
Its amazing how the police can be terrified hyper-reactionary cowards, and can use that as justification for murder.
but the bog standard citizenry have to be upright, with 100% control over every single muscle in their body and thought in their head, while showing the more discipline than the most seasoned military official during an inspection, without a single ounce of fear, hesitation, or doubt, Or else we get brutalized and/or shot.
All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others.
how you dare to interrupt my midnight meal
That goes to show you what not to do. I much rather call a friend…we catch the guy, give him some sleeping medication…we drive him to the desert… Maybe we make a little incision and plant a gps locator. If he decides to come back, you take drastic measures. Nothing bad, just more sleeping pills and a big box return to sender to China or Australia.
Never call the police unless you want your name on some dirt that will be used against you.
How is this not fascism? Just because their violence is directed mostly towards minorities?
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Why in our news cycle do we need to rage before there is any significant information about a story, then wait for the information, then either rage some more… or possibly never hear anything again. I absolutely get it. You call the cops, you get shot, that is highly unexpected- to say the least. Maybe.
Perhaps the officer had her dead-to-rights and decided to pull the trigger. Perhaps she jumped out from behind a corner saying, “OH THANK GO…!”. Perhaps she thought the cop was the intruder and came after him with a bat, etc., etc., etc. The point is WE DON’T KNOW anything from this article.
Yet, we are all supposed to sit in the edge of our seats waiting for such information. I HATE it.
This article has no information other than,“Something really unexpected happened, more at 11!”
So, why aren’t we allowed to wait until there is actual information before we pick up news? Or before we post it to lemmy to upvote, invent narratives, and rage away while we wait for important details?
Maybe cops shouldn’t just shoot people at first sight, just because they think it’s a suspect.
Use of deadly force should require caution.Maybe cops shouldn’t just shoot people at first sight, just because they think it’s a suspect.
Maybe you shouldn’t make up facts that haven’t been reported.
Pretty sure she got shot by the cops.
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So many of these stories are months or even years after the fact because unless the media gets on it, the incident gets buried immediately, and by the time the media gets ahold of it any investigation is challenging because it’s either so long after the fact or police “lost” evidence.
It being reported immediately starts the accountability and makes it much more likely that there will be an investigation in the first place. Either you are too young to remember or just weren’t noticing, but reports of police killing unarmed minorities was exceptionally rare a few decades ago. Cops got away with anything and everything. That’s where Black Lives Matter came from, getting the mainstream media (and the justice department) to care when a black person gets killed.
As I’ve said already, I’m not opposed in the least to the immediate reporting. I’m opposed to the assumptions made based on that limited reporting.
Perhaps the officer had her dead-to-rights and decided to pull the trigger. Perhaps she jumped out from behind a corner saying, “OH THANK GO…!”. Perhaps she thought the cop was the intruder and came after him with a bat, etc., etc., etc
None of these scenarios should end with a bullet in her head, are you crazy?
The first two no. Which is exactly why I added them. Are you crazy? The last, who knows. Very likely not. But have you ever been hit in the head with a bat, or do you just like to sit on the couch and pretend what you would do if you were?
In any event, actual news about this event has since been reported. You can stop pretending you knew what happened and rage at what did happen.
Women: Calls Cops for Help. Cops: Murder Women. You: We need to give the cops the Benefit of the Doubt!
Cops: Murder Women.
See? You just made that up. Please tell me where in this article that is explained.
You GOT me! She wasn’t Murdered! She was just Shot In The Head with a Gun for No Reason and Died for Unrelated Reasons! Ah Shucks! You’re a Smart One!
You, figuratively:
“What if she deserved to be shot in the head?”
You, literally:
“I didn’t verbatim say that! So you’re wrong! Checkmate!”
Go find some rope, holy shit.
Lol, it didn’t say ANYTHING. Which is what I actually said. No “verbatim” about it, dumbass.
I don’t care if this woman pulled a Eustace and went “Ooga Booga Booga,” mask and all. A officer’s default reaction should not be “shoot in the head.” And they’re not releasing the footage, which they would happily do of they believed it was in their favor.
Even if she came out with a bat/knife, they didn’t try to hit anything else? Leg, arm, shoulder, nothing? Neither officer had injuries, so who was shooting at them? Clearly it wasn’t this woman, but the article says they reported shots fired. Did they even get the intruder? I’m not going to say that every case is the same, but I’ve seen plenty of standoff videos where cops plead with people to drop the weapon, give multiple warnings, etc., and STILL don’t shoot to kill.
There have been many, many cases of officers shooting first and asking questions later. And they usually just get a paid vacation. We will continue to rage until they understand that this is not okay, and that being an officer doesn’t give you carte blanche to shoot people when you get startled. If you can’t handle that, you shouldn’t be a officer
Signed, Someone who shouldn’t be an officer because I also startle easy
Even if she came out with a bat/knife, they didn’t try to hit anything else? Leg, arm, shoulder, nothing?
Aiming for center of mass is a pretty universal bit of firearm training. Doesn’t excuse their reaction, but it is what you should be doing if you’re gonna fire on someone. Going for legs or arms or a headshot means you’re more likely to miss.
another reason I shouldn’t be a copThank you for the info. I didn’t realize about the center mass part. Always good to get new info 👍🏾
https://apnews.com/article/illinois-sheriffs-deputy-charged-cf164189d678f921deff05fa3789d3a2
Enough details for you to be upset now, or do you think the pot of water possibly had a gun?
Nope, that’s exactly the level of detail people should have been waiting for.
