• Flying Squid@lemmy.world
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    This is fucking insane. He wants them to create housing immediately, as if building things like apartments doesn’t take time.

    Bad enough that the camps are being broken up. They literally have nowhere to go but prison. Oh well, at least the private prisons are making their slave quotas.

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      He wants them to create housing immediately, as if building things like apartments doesn’t take time.

      He says that occasionally, but that’s not really what he wants, he just wants homeless people gone out of sight and out of the minds of his donors and their customers. If they disappear into housing that’s fine, but he’s ok with other solutions too so long as they happen now now now

      Los Angeles County, in particular, has become a frequent target of Newsom’s ire. The governor again criticized the county on Thursday for delaying implementation of a law that expands the criteria for people to be detained against their will.

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        Absolutely. He’s not an idiot. He knows he’s asking the impossible when he says shit like this.

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          When is the cocksucker up for relection. We need to Primary him and remove him from politics at least as a Democrat. He fucking DINO and horrible human being. He should join the GOP because everything he does reminds me of them.

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          it would be impolite to say so though. 🤷‍♀️ sorry. can’t listen, you’re rude for accusing someone of doing something only a total piece of shit would do, implying that he’s a total piece of shit. what kind person would even DO that?

          maybe we could listen to you if you also said it was fine and good?

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        Especially if it doesn’t hurt his electabity. I think he’s quite ambitious and that motivates him.

        Besides, what does a career politician do after governorship?

        Corporate boards?

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      Forced prison labor is determined by state, not by ownership. There are Federal prisons in many states that use slave labor, socialized by our tax money.

      Your point still stands though.

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    maybe California shouldn’t have a 3-5 YEAR waitlist for section 8/Housing Choice Vouchers housing?

    maybe they should force all those empty retail/commercial/industrial/residential properties to be put to use or forced to hand over to the state.

    maybe the church of scientology shouldnt be allowed to own thousands of buildings in california with no stated purposed or published staff?

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      Maybe they should also start building more apartments at rent controlled rates?

      Its not just about the empty spots. Those are owned.

      Its about the rich people denying apartments to maintain the clean skyline.

      Edit: added also

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        Rent control disincentivizes building new apartments though. That is, if I take out a load of debt to build a $10M apartment, and due to rent control my profit is going to be capped at levels that are probably below what I could get through low-risk treasury bills, why would I build anything? Sure, you can get it built by the state, but states have a distressing tendency to stop adequately funding required infrastructure and not do necessary maintenance in a timely fashion (more so than most shitty apartment complexes even).

        I entirely agree that NIMBYs need to be steamrolled though. High-density housing is far, far better than sprawl.

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        Nah, I’m with Num10ck. There are more than enough houses with existing infrastructure to utilities. Putting up more homes is wasteful and adds carbon into the air.

        The state has the power to levy a heavy vacancy tax on unoccupied spaces. I think thats the best route to getting people housed.

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          Oh I also agree we need to tax unoccupied housing. On a sliding scale too since there are land barons rampant in our nation.

          This would force real estate companies to fill homes that costs them loads to keep empty. Instantly increasing supply and thus cost of rent goes down.

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      My wet dream is dead malls converted to indoor cities. Turn old shops into efficiency apartments, the huge end cap stores like Boscovs into grocery stores, food court into cafeteria-style dining. Hell, even keep some food places or shops if you want to get some capitalists hard. Just charge them rent out the ass in exchange for a nearly captive consumer base and use the funds to improve the place.

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      He has done that. Not defending his homelessness position. Only saying he’s mandated housing creation.

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    The safety net has people-sized holes in it. I nearly became homeless in June, and it wasn’t the state that came through for me, it was a relative. Even though I’m stll sleeping on a porch, I count myself lucky.

    The programs that are supposed to help people stay housed are failing: not enough funds for housing vouchers, restrictions too high for enrollment, and waiting lists too long for practicality.

    And Gavin is a wannabe autocrat. If it weren’t for him and his vetomania, we would have legalized natural psychedelics in CA by now. But no, instead we have people out there getting sick from sketchy products. And it seems like it’s the same with everything: do the exact opposite of helping while making it look like you care.

    Edit: there are decent leaders out there though, such as this mayor who lived as a homeless man for a week to gain some insight on the matter.

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      A large number of the homeless people in L.A. have jobs. It’s just ridiculously expensive to live there, so they end up living in their cars or a tent.

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        That’s what I’ve heard as well. Passing them on the street you’d probably think they weren’t even homeless at all. Not everyone finds it possible to get their life together that much, though :/

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    Breaking up homeless encampments doesn’t fix the fact that these people have nowhere to live! What a cruel policy.

    Why not emminent domain overpriced apartment buildings owned by the Saudis, Chinese, and Russians, and give the apartments away the homeless. Problem solved.

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    We need real leadership when it comes to affordable housing, instead we get this.

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    I am so, so glad that Newsom wasn’t seriously in the running to be VP. This will hopefully tank his chances of ever running for president.

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