JFC don’t. We don’t even want to hear you. I would rather have AOC as a choice over you.
AOC would be a stellar choice IMO, but 90% of the 1% would probably be against her, and that’s about half of all the money in USA.
Social democracies in Scandinavia work DESPITE being undermined by the rich, so the political shrewdness and tenacity that would be required of her is insane. She would need a lot of backup from the population, and the population will need patience.Because rebuilding the institutions in USA to their former standard is already a lot of work, but rebuilding them to the standard of a proper social democracy is something USA has never seen before, and will be very difficult.
For starters it requires USA to become an actual democracy instead of the dysfunctional democracy that USA many Americans praise as divine and sent from heaven. A multi party system is a must for true democracy, and until USA has at least 8 parties represented in congress, it is not really a functioning democracy at all.Hey, keep away from AOC, we need her to take over Chuck’s Senate seat. The rest of you can have her after a term or three, she’ll still be plenty young enough to run, and maybe by then the country will be ready to vote for a woman for President…
From an outsider perspective, I think unless you get AOC now there’s not going to be much of a country left for another round sometime later… Bernie has spent his whole life with “maybe on the next one”. It will never be on the next one.
I say this as someone who loves AOC and what she does…
If AOC runs, she will lose.
That’s just the state of the nation right now. The only thing America hates more than women is a progressive. The culture of the country right now is way too volatile. The country just isn’t ready for a female president. Not because a woman can’t do it… but because the country is way too far gone with sexism and misogyny.
It was a long shot when Hillary ran, it was long shot when Kamala ran. If you think it’s not a long shot now after the MAGA crowd has been systematically destroying everything… and you want to run a Berniecrat woman? At this time? In this country?
I think you are right, and I also think it would be better for USA to “normalize” and find its center first.
Then AOC will have better chances of actually accomplishing something.Now we can only hope (as a foreigner) that USA will normalize, and not become a dictatorship.
How about they both run in the primaries in a democratic process?
I completely wish she won last election… but there’s no way we’re taking a risk on her again.
I’m not a huge fan of Newsom, but at least he’s been loudly attacking this current administration. Maybe she has too, but I don’t hear from her in my news cycles.
Unless some progressive comes out and surprises everyone, Newsom will likely be my choice.
Let’s not and just say she did. Time to move on.
You inspired people not to vote. Go away.
who is in her circle telling her that this is a good idea? Does she not have any close friends who can speak plainly to her?
You would think having lost to an actual piece of shit would be enough of a reality check. Just stop… ffs. The best thing Kamala can do is fade into obscurity like Al Gore.
Fuck it, let her. She had to drop out of the 2020 primary before voting started because she was on track to lose every single state, and she clearly hasn’t become more electable since then. All she could possibly do is siphon some votes and donor money off Newsom or Buttigieg. If that’s what she wants to do, I fully support that.
Ensure we have no chance of winning.
fucking delusional
Absolutely not, we really need a fresh pool of candidates, the Democratic elites need to be fired, all of them.
we really need a fresh pool of candidates
DNC: We’ve listened to your suggestions and taken them to heart. We have a new candidate, someone not cut from the old cloth. In fact, he’s even a socialist. Let me introduce you to our new 2028 candidate…Steven Miller. He’s not just a socialist, but a national socialist! Don’t forget to vote blue no matter who!
I hope she does just as well in her next primary, as she has in every other primary she’s had to compete in
I will not vote again for Kamala Harris, nor for any other ordinary, boring, middle-of-the-road Democrat. “Vote blue no matter who” brought us to this point, where Democrats are so spineless and compromised, only a handful of elected Dems are willing to oppose fascism. Never again, for me. Give me a candidate worth voting for — that’s the only way to get my vote.
Let’s remove the dictator first, then we can work on the Party. Harris is a bad choice either way.
Historically, the first step in removing the dictator is letting the fake controlled opposition party burn to the ground. Voting in corporate Dems is no different than voting for the fake opposition parties the Soviet dictators used to let run so they could brag about getting 99% of the vote.
We already tried your strategy, and it failed. We got some short-term wins, but at the cost of long-term defeat. In 2020, we followed your approach. We picked the useless corporate centrist because we saw him as more ‘electable’ and because we needed to get Trump out of office. And of course, what everyone on the left predicted would happen, happened. The centrist did very little to actually change the conditions that lead to Trump in the first place, and predictably, Trump won again with an even larger margin.
You need to start looking beyond just the election in front of you. Short-term thinking is what has got us into this mess. We’re so unwilling to take a short-term loss that we make short-sighted decisions on “electability” that ultimately end up losing us elections in both the short and long term.
Your strategy results in Kamala winning in 2028 and Steven Miller becoming president in 2032.
I will splinter the two party system into a thousand little pieces. Mark my words.
Please. We need election reform.
You guys don’t understand, she lost because people forgot how bad trump was, this time people will fall in line
No one forgot how bad Trump was, most people just watch fox news
I love how everybody is assuming that there will be a “next election”. I’m not sure that’s guaranteed. Except, maybe, in the way that Russia still has elections.
I mean, I know you can be too alarmist about things, but there’s a very clear and obvious direction of travel in the US right now.
I don’t disagree with you, but I feel like people jump to that scenario without describing the steps to get there. How do you see unfolding? How do different opposition groups respond such as the DNC? What about blue states? How does the administration handle it without losing popular consensus? Does it even matter? If they use the military, how do they get the military stay the path when the populous begins to reject their intervention?
Trump is sending “election observers” to California because of prop 50 and to New York because of Mamdani. It’s reasonable to be very concerned about future election integrity. ICE has a larger budget than the Marines. They’ve openly ignored courts. They have fully abandoned the rule of law.
Like I said, I don’t disagree that this is a possibility, but I’m curious how people see it unfolding. I like to leverage other minds to develop my thinking.
While the whole world is focused on Epstein files, thinking it’s going to be his downfall (why would it?), he’s replacing the leaders of many institutions with yes men, that emergency meeting Hegseth had calling in all the military generals should honestly be the most alarming thing in recent US history, and yet we aren’t even a quarter of the way through his term.
Kinda hard not to be alarmist
How do you see unfolding?
Martial law to respond to ice agents being killed or police turning against them.
They’re already trying to instigate this.
How do different opposition groups respond such as the DNC?
“The Supreme Court says it’s ok, so our hands are tied, but we’re very upset.”
They already have the Supreme Court on their team.
What about blue states?
Governors will either roll over or start a hot civil war.
Which do you think they’ll choose?
How does the administration handle it without losing popular consensus?
By arresting and murdering protesters.
They’ve already identified vague groups like antifa as domestic terrorists.
If they use the military, how do they get the military stay the path when the populous begins to reject their intervention?
If you give ICE a large enough budget, they can act as a new military. And by firing non-loyal brass for not being able to do enough pushups and replacing them with loyalists, you can keep the military from intervening under the guise of neutrality.
The Courts are, as you noted, already in line with or an ineffective hedge against the administration. I think there are other opposition groups. I suspect there are more than a few in the military who are willing to resist. Discounting military leaders has been the downfall of many rebellions.
Replacing personelle isn’t as easy as just putting someone loyal into the position. Execution requires competency and the counter elites don’t have experience to run things effectively save a few notable exceptions. They seem best suited to posturing, making grand proclamations, and breaking things. This is fine when you’re trying to destroy the old order, but building one is a lot harder.
By arresting and murdering protesters.
I’m skeptical they can do this en mass without emboldening resistance at first. Your need a well staffed group of people to deal with this in hundreds of sites and willing to kill people. For everything the MAGA movement has done, they’ve never given a positivist vision for the future. Which is to say, what future are we creating that makes it worth killing people.
None of my critiques should be read as they can’t do it. Rather, these are strategic points at which interference could undermine their efforts.
As for blue states, I think most will gesture towards being offended greatly, but fail to create an effective opposition. I do think a couple will attempt a hot resistance. And if, say, a Pacific front opens, this could be difficult to deal with. Furthermore, pockets of resistence within red states will be very, very difficult to stamp out. Our large geography makes it very difficult to command and control.
I don’t think ICE, even as well funded as they are, have the trained pedosnelle or institutions to replicate anything like a military force. Hell, out military isn’t even well designed to be an effective occupation force.
Her pivot away from a winning campaign and buy in on immigration lies by major media companies shows that she’s an idiot. Sorry but I would take Hillary Clinton 2.0 before this dumbass. A lack of humanity on gaza is also a clear moral failure.
I think anyone without a policy proposal to end gerrymandering and make housing affordable has too little vision to take on the current moment. Anyone unwilling to sanction Israel is a moral failure.
she’s literally just black hillary clinton 2.0
she believes in nothing except whatever the Party’s donors tells her to
