Summary
The Trump administration plans to revoke temporary legal status for 240,000 Ukrainians who fled Russia’s war, fast-tracking them for deportation.
The move is part of a broader effort to strip protections from 1.8 million migrants admitted under Biden’s humanitarian parole programs.
Trump’s policies also target 530,000 migrants from Cuba, Haiti, Nicaragua, and Venezuela.
Legal challenges are mounting, as affected individuals face uncertain futures. Advocates warn that even U.S. allies, such as Afghans who assisted the military, are now at risk of detention and deportation.
Sometimes I feel like I was the only one who remembered that this is what it was like the last time he was in office. Just every day some fresh hell, like a treadmill of anger and grief until the only real reason to protest is so that they don’t drive you permanently numb.
The scope of this new order is hard to contemplate. 0.77 million people who are being shown the door today. Our colossus is in need of a new credo.
“Give me your billionaires, your oligarchs, Your hunched war criminals yearning for the Lolita Express, The wretched refuse of your banking sectors. Send these, the landlords, tempest-tost to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden arches!"
Edit to add: I know that it is currently only a plan. I do not need to bicker with anyone about this.
Sometimes I feel like I was the only one who remembered that this is what it was like the last time he was in office
I feel like it’s worse this time. Darker. We didn’t have the Ukraine or Israeli war. We didn’t have perverse AI videos like the Gaza video with a giant golden Trump statue.
2016 was the rise of Trump. Right now we are in the age of Trump. Trump is steadily increasing his power and I believe fairly soon he will be able to more or less unilaterally control the federal government as he continues his purges.
That is a large amount of people being sent back to a country where there is a good possibility that they will be killed. The country that is throwing them out (the US) has a lot of sympathetic people to their cause…and a lot of easily accessible guns.
Golden Arches works, but now we can use Golden Dome too.
Tell me Trump is a Russian asset without saying he’s a Russian asset.
This traitor is destroying all our allegiances. In a single month.
It’s time for America to accept that we have placed a literal traitor in the highest office.
And it’s time for us to man the fuck up and start adhering to our fucking Constitution. We’re letting a felon rapist traitor fuck our future.
Who’s going to do it? All I see is a bunch of internet talk. There’s no leadership. Just a bunch of ppl scared and posting online or emailing/calling senators. We especially need straight white men standing up. The dem paddle holding was just pathetic.
Do we have any voices as powerful as those in WWII? I have yet to hear someone with a truly powerful place in media speak a heartfelt plea to the Americans because the media has been bought. Even if there was someone who could reach out and speak a message that people could hear, they would never let it air in a place where it mattered.
I remember hearing Trump’s foreign policy described as “isolationist.”
He’s not an isolationist.
He’s on Russia’s side.
I would prefer if he were an isolationist.
This, and I would go further. There is no such thing as right and left for russian puppets. Their “ideology” is whatever is needed for their particular populace and the only thing aligning them around the world is the trail of money.
Well then the next step is actual betrayal of Ukraine by giving their intel to Russia.
Never mind he’s probably already doing so.
Amazing that there are still groups of people looking at these decisions and trying to discern the rationale behind them as if there was any. Mental Olympics at this point.
So at this point it’s not even illegals but those that have gone through the effort to obtain status. What the actual fuck.
Well, in this case, why not just deport Trump?
Or at least his wife.
Would he notice at this point?
The ICE fucks who are ordered to arrest Ukrainians here fleeing wartime (children, mothers, elderly) better fucking resign and/or blatantly refuse this shit. If not, these traitors should be executed right along with trump and vance.
I’m a Latino and I’ve always seen ice as the Gestapo of your country, I’m glad everyone else is seeing it. Ice has been a hellhole where the most evil and destructive humans end up working from its beginning.
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In nazi land, everyone becomes illegal eventually
Exhibit A. This article.
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I’m native, i don’t need any incentive to stand against you and your fascist wannabes no matter what they cal themselves
Good people don’t become ICE.
Good people don’t become and remain any sort of unlawful enforcement officer. ACAC. All Cops Are Criminals.
Why is Trump still living?
Poor markmanship.
Oh comon, that was a really good shot under pressure
Yeah. Shooting targets is hard. Especially when it’s oozing to and fro on a stage X number of yards away.
The real question is if it had made contact with his head, would it have killed him since his brain occupies such a small portion of that head? People often can live if a bullet doesn’t hit any vital organs.
That kid almost became a historic legend.
I honestly don’t know what would have happened. Would the country have been upset and voted for whatever other scum Republicans tossed in as Trump’s replacement? Would it have been too late and the country would have just defaulted to Dems to be safe? I don’t know. But the kid would have still been a hero.
Sooooooo close.
The republican that took his spot would have won with a big majority but at least it wouldn’t be a Russian asset
Not so sure how many republicans in office aren’t Russian assets at this point. There’s a bunch of them though, have been for a while.
Vance probably would have stepped up as the candidate. Would he win vs Kamala? Hard to say, he ain’t no Trump, but his chances would still be decent considering the current known track record of female candidates
High school rifle club.
He’s living proof that time travel into the past is never going to get invented … likely because he cut most science funding.
I’m not so sure about that.
Just like the Federation in the Star Trek universe had the Prime Directive (rule) that prohibits its members from interfering with the natural development of alien civilization, I can see how time travel could have a similar rule. Going back in time to mess with things can create all kinds of unintentional butterfly effects.As Gandalf says “Even the very wise cannot see all ends”
Going back in time to mess with things can create all kinds of unintentional butterfly effects.
omg, maybe this timeline is a butterfly effect!
Because America is too weak to deal with internal threats.
In less than 24 hours we can reign unholy fire down upon any enemy anywhere on the globe. But if they’re in our own backyard we cower before them and allow them to abuse us repeatedly.
And that is why our democracy will collapse and our quality of life will decline.
The universe isn’t benevolent
Imagine there are still people who chose to go to USA voluntarily?
Will Americans really still just look on and do nothing while the Trump administration is tearing the country apart?
There are a lot of protests going on right now - the news isn’t covering it.
I think the legal, standing around with signs protest is going to have to have its toothier cousin (the violent riot) starting up again alongside it if we want anything to change. They already painted the 2020 protests as “burning the cities down” despite them being >90% peaceful. We might as well – to reference Kendrick Lamar’s lyrics – fuck being rational and give em what they asked for.
Yup.
Legal avenues and peaceful protests aren’t viable.
Violence will have to be the answer. Historically it always is if legal avenues and peaceful protests fail.
Fascists do not respond to anything other than violence.
It’s coming. The question is how much violence will be necessary to bring about change?
And it all could have been avoided if Americans behaved like adults and refrained from empowering a traitorous felon rapist.
Where? how do you know? how does the rest of the world find out about these?
I was curious what would happen if I googled “protests happening right now” and interestingly enough, it sent back this link: https://usprotests.liveuamap.com/
I’d question the credibility at this point. I’ve spent 0 minutes on there.
Aside from that…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dN-NxUYGpAo&list=RDNSdN-NxUYGpAo&start_radio=1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ieXcaRvKAz4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHitRUYRbdk&list=RDNSNHitRUYRbdk&start_radio=1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tro3pCO0YWY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBMF2OU-xR4
Honestly, just fucking around on Lemmy every other day or so, I always see a new post regarding a protest.
Thanks for the links!.. definitely a balm on the shattered trust in the American people
Will Americans really still just look on and do nothing while the Trump administration is tearing the country apart?
It appears so.
Our checks and balances within our federal government have failed. Categorically. Our government is not equipped to deal with internal threats like this. We have too many weaknesses within our system and too many individuals unwilling to live up to their oaths.
That leaves it up to the general public. Right now, not gonna happen. Not sure what’s going to happen over the next few years. Things are going to get progressively worse. People will get more desperate. Violent crime will increase. These factors may push Americans to protest, probably violently, at levels never before seen in this country. That could bring about a positive change. But I’m not really betting on that happening. People are complacent. People are wage slaves. We’re going to have to lose our internet and TV and cell phone service before Americans get bloodthirsty on a large scale. Or if they seriously fuck with social security. That’ll cause riots.
But if they’re even remotely smart fascists they’d know to do this all slowly to prevent Americans from noticing or at least to prevent them from getting super mad super quick. Like, fuck with Social Security a little bit, so people get mad, but not that mad. Then do it some more a year later.
They’re not particularly smart though. So we’re basically going to see over the next few years if Americans can live up to our rebellious stereotype or if we’ve become meek and frail through lack of true hardship.
Our checks and balances within our federal government have failed. Categorically.
Absolutely, the whole system was based on the administration respecting the law, when it doesn’t do that, all the checks and balances don’t work.
They’re not particularly smart though.
Sadly that seems like the best hope we have.
Will Americans really still just look on and do nothing while the Trump administration is tearing the country apart?
Yeah, pretty likely.
Imagine there are still people who chose to go to USA voluntarily?
I’d rather live in neo-fascist USA than in a war zone where I’m liable to be sent to the frontlines and die bleeding out in a trench after a drone blows my leg off.
I’d rather live in neo-fascist USA than live in poverty in many parts of Latin America where I would make 10x higher salary for unskilled labor. I would also have a 10x lower chance of getting my throat slit walking down the street at night.
Neo-fascist USA has literally threatened war with Canada and other neighboring countries, so if you think you won’t be on the front lines in a nonsense war started by fascists, then history has a very important lesson to teach you.
Chances are you and other Americans will be fighting in Ukraine alongside Russia by next year at the rate this clown show is excellerating.
There’s no American freedom in Neo-fascist USA, just whatever the broligarchy wants. The rights and freedom you, and every previous generation of Americans fought for are pretty much all gone now, so you are sorely mistaken if you assume you now have any.
i was born in a country with a military dictatorship who used to disappear people. just because the country is going to hell doesn’t mean you can’t carve out a meaningful life for yourself in the chaos. and living in a dystopian version of the US is probably still better than living in a dystopian version of a 3rd world country
then history has a very important lesson to teach you.
at no point in US history has the US been at war with a neighboring country over a trade war escalation and instituted a draft as a result of that war
any future war is going to be versus China and we’ve probably got at least a few years before that comes to fruition.
we’re in the years leading up to WW3. think of it like the early 1930s. if you look at history, everywhere sucked. i’d rather be in a 1st world country when the bombs go off rather than a 3rd world country where i’m liable to starve due to mass famines
You’re arguing for the pros of living in Germany post WW2. Because if WW3 happens, the US will not be on the side of the good guys.
Im sorry you lived in a 3rd world dictatorship. I imagine you moved to the US to escape that. I would very much like to preserve the freedom that attracted you to this country in the first place, rather than be complacent as we break bad due to social medias firehose of propaganda.
I would very much like to preserve the freedom that attracted you to this country in the first place
i would very much like to preserve the freedom as well. i’m not pro-fascism if that wasn’t clear
i was just saying that even if shit gets really bad here people may still come because everything else could be worse
Fair enough. And thanks for the clarification.
That’s not exactly voluntarily then, if it’s to save your life.
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He doesn’t give a fuck about the minerals. This is all Putin’s bidding. Zelensky never had a deal, and Traitor Trump never intended to honour it. Next up is the dismantling of NATO, which is already partially done.
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I can’t believe the cruelty. I’m just… But… No words.
What the fuck…
WHAT THE FUCK. That is all
What’s his fucking issue with Ukrainians? Is it all about the time when Zelenski didn’t help him produce dirt on Hunter Biden? There is around a million of Ukrainians in Poland right now and crime related incidents involving them are rare. They are a net benefit to society. A million more tax payers. Unfortunately due to incompatibility of their education system and slight language barrier they do jobs below their education level but their contribution is undisputable. Quick influx of them hastened problems with housing affordability in largest cities but it’s not their fault that the government has no strategy to combat high housing prices, without them the situation would still arise but a couple years later. I’ll take 240k more Ukrainian immigrants than 240k American tourists anytime.
Is it all about the time when Zelenski didn’t help him produce dirt on Hunter Biden?
Yep!
Not sure how Republicans are able to rationalize how expelling these specific individuals makes America any better or fixes literally any of it’s problems.
This is just petty retaliation.
I think they rationalize it quite easily, just like all the other garbage that’s ok as long as it’s one of their own.
I wonder where they will go. Their homes in Ukraine are probably destroyed.
I kind of understand immigrants.
But refugees? That’s just a NASTY move.
Immigrants implies they’ve gone through the legal process to emigrate to the United States. The word you’re looking for is illegal aliens and I think the vast majority of the country is forgetting there is a simple solution. Penalize all of the companies that are exploiting illegal alien labor to widen their profit margin. Why do we always blame the drug users instead of the drug dealers in this country and I’m using the terms as a metaphor in this case the dealers are the businesses they’re the problem not the folks trying to make a better life for themselves.
The same people who hire illegal immigrants are the same people who vote for things like ICE and crackdowns and fund those candidates. They can pay their workers shit, get away with deplorable working conditions (are you calling OSHA if you are here illegally?) and then call up la migra the second that they hear talk about unions.
Indeed, and the biggest part of the scam, they can blame the birds for eating poisoned crumbs out of their hand instead of being called out for poisoning the crumbs… If you get the metaphor
Why do we always blame the drug users instead of the drug dealers in this country and I’m using the terms as a metaphor in this case the dealers are the businesses they’re the problem not the folks trying to make a better life for themselves.
Because Job Creation is the ultimate altruism while Poverty is the ultimate sin in America.
