Are westerners being robbed of TP when we get the hollow rolls? Is communism the right path after all?
I’ve been on Lemmy for about a year, so I’m certain that communism is the only right path.
Good man! It also happened to be Vietnams national holiday here yesterday, and so there were national flags and hammer and sickle flags everywhere, festivals, and street performances about Ho Chi Minh and the struggle aganst France, China, US, and TBH i never felt so patriotic for a country not my own!
I used to buy rolls where the center of the tube came as a little personal roll you could put in your purse. I can’t remember which brand anymore.
There are some commercial rolls I’ve seen in the US that seem to be a happy medium…the holder itself in the stall has a thin plastic rod for the TP to go on, and the rolls have a very small opening in the center (and no cardboard) to go on that rod.
Where do you think all the centers of our TP go?
They sell them as donut holes near the airport
But what about all the kids crafts and hamster tubes?
They have the same thing in China, it’s very confusing.
I got a box of these from Amazon in 2020. (In USA)
Just yesterday I was reminiscing with my wife about how TP rolls used to have no tube when we were children and how hard it was to find the center to put them on the holder.
If I may ask, what country and how long ago was this? I have never really seen this before
This exists now in the US at Target. I liked them, actually.
Here in Vietnam we use the whole toilet paper! That’s 65% more toilet paper per toilet paper!
Don’t go to Russia. Every once in a while you can encounter this atrocity. Yes, it has holes right out of the roll, no perforation whatsoever and not even a hole that you could hang it on and therefore outer layers are always dirty. And, of course, feels like a sandpaper, tears when wiping, but stretches when you actually try to get a piece. Please don’t tell me that this exists outside of Russia, that’d be way to much assrash for this world.
when you take brutalism so far that your toilet paper looks like concrete
Now with 20% more aggregate!
Don’t go to Russia.
There’s a very tall list of reasons to not go to Russia and their toilet papers isn’t very high on it.
I don’t know…
My list goes:
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Their toilet paper
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I might criticize Putin
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I might criticize the government
- Might accodentally fly my drone into a cracking vessel at an oil refinery. Whoops.
Well, I wouldn’t worry about 2 and 3 that much. It’s just that as a foreigner, especially if you are from the US, you will most definitely fall under the surveillance of FSB and the cops will look at you twice, but they’re not paid half-decent enough to actually give a shit and do their job properly. They might harass you here and there but if you don’t do anything stupid like protesting in red square or doing selfies in front of military bases, then they’ll have nothing against you. I imagine that’s not that much worse than living in the US under CIA’s umbrella and trigger happy cops. Other than that, it’s not nearly an extreme hellhole like NK, Afghanistan or Syria that people make it sound like. In fact, you can get by in Moscow or St. Petersburg without a guide or translator just fine. I’d rather advise to watch out for the tourist traps(the usual), and to avoid getting out of the city limits and into the suburbs because of the much increased crime levels.
Ah, and put the fact that for every dollar you spend there, you put 20 cents straight into Putin’s pocket into that list…
And also that you’d probably need a visa and it’s a hassle…
And that you’d probably need a Russian friend to get you hooked up with the basics and avoid going through the bureaucracy - like with currency exchange, credit card, carrier plan, etc…
Also that weather is rather harsh there…
And also that it’s probably the dirtiest country on earth because city planners didn’t zone out lawns and parks properly therefore the mud gets spread absolutely everywhere…
And that internet is half-broken, with half sites censored while the others block everyone from Russian IP’s because sanctions…
And that Ukraine might not let you in afterwards…
And that you’d for sure be questioned by your homecountry’s intelligence services…
And that’s about all that I can think of.
But I saw Mr Bald and Bankrupt do it several times! And he only went to jail twice!
it’s not nearly an extreme hellhole like NK
North Korea is like ten times nicer than Russia, and definitely doesn’t belong on the same list as Taliban-controlled Afghanistan or still-a-warzone Syria, regardless of what you think of their government.
And you’d likely be held prisoner as a trading chip for Russian murderers.
Well, it that case you’re referring to, the guy was actually snooping around which would fall into doing stupid things. But, just in case, just this once, here’s a free get out of jail free card: If you ever got caught just say that you’re an orthodox christian who came to Russia to enjoy based traditional culture in this bastion of anti-woke-ism and family values, and complain about some dumb shit like how western liberal agenda prevents you from hitting your wife or something. They can’t put you on TV while you are in prison, so they’ll have to let you go.
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I encountered this in Ukraine, often combined with those toilets in the floor and/or extremely rickety, extremely “well-loved” outhouses. Once, we stopped in what appeared to be a stranger’s yard and my hosts advised we were at the rest stop. I asked where the restroom was. They all started laughing. They are a hearty bunch.
The one that’s just like a concrete block with few holes in the floor? God that shit’s terrifying. Grew up in Russia and luckily never had to use one of those as they were never the only option. But if I had to, I’d rather shit my pants instead. Had to use shoddy garden toilets, squat toilets and toilets with no stalls before a few times each, all were awful experiences, but this thing, it combines all three for the ultimate discomfort.
So it’s just crepe streamer paper?
Very close to it, yeah, like a very thin and shitty one. Doesn’t stretch as much nor is as sturdy, but the texture is spot on.
You see these in Poland every now and then, just with an actual central hole. I remember seeing these in my school, we used to call it srajtaśma (“shit tape” is the best translation I can think of), and it was just as bad as you described it. It also had a very particular smell to it.
Funny how I could probably understand what you mean if you said it without translation. Sounds very simillar to срать тесьма, which is also shit tape, though it’s not a correct grammatically in Russian. To my knowledge, we don’t have a specific name for it, but if there were I’d say it’d either be студенческая/солдатсткая (student/soldier) paper because they’re so poor, or жоподёрка (the assripper)
That’s because soft toilet paper is too gay for Russia.
Food so spicy, the give you a roll of bandages as oilet paper. Parch yourself up.
MEDIC!
In China it comes stacked in bags and you pull it out sheet by sheet like paper hand towels or a box of tissues. You can hang the bag up.
That’s called coreless TP and you can get it in the US too, mostly from institutional suppliers. You can also try Asian markets like Ranch 99 if you are near one.
Solid TP rolls are quite common in Asia. Not sure if this is still true, but a lot of public toilets don’t provide toilet paper for fear of people stealing them. You have to bring your own TP, at which point including the cardboard insert takes up too much space to carry around.
You can buy something like this here in the US.
The roll is smaller, and they market it as being made for camping (takes up less space in the pack, etc). It also, of course, costs more because of this, since modern camping gear loves to price gouge.
If you’re going to pack TP though, just spool what you need around something smaller in diameter (like a skewer). Or if you know what you’re doing then just use leaves instead, those are free.